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RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Graham Hill:" to "'''Graham Hill:'''"

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RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Śyāmasundara:" to "'''Śyāmasundara:'''"

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	This is Sanskrit language.		This is Sanskrit language.

	Śyāmasundara: "One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities does not, upon leaving the body, take his birth again in this material world . . ."		'''Śyāmasundara:''' "One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities does not, upon leaving the body, take his birth again in this material world . . ."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' "Does not take his birth again."		'''Prabhupāda:''' "Does not take his birth again."

	Śyāmasundara: ". . . but attains My eternal abode."		'''Śyāmasundara:''' ". . . but attains My eternal abode."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, this is the winning over death. What is that process?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, this is the winning over death. What is that process?

	Śyāmasundara: Ah, "One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities."		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Ah, "One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Simply if you know what is Kṛṣṇa, why He comes, what are His activities, these things, if you try to understand, then you conquer over death.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Simply if you know what is Kṛṣṇa, why He comes, what are His activities, these things, if you try to understand, then you conquer over death.
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	(aside) Come here, find out ''vāsāṁsi jīrṇāni yathā vihāya''.		(aside) Come here, find out ''vāsāṁsi jīrṇāni yathā vihāya''.

	Śyāmasundara: He's our Sanskrit scholar.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' He's our Sanskrit scholar.

	'''Pradyumna:'''		'''Pradyumna:'''
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	(aside) Find out this verse.		(aside) Find out this verse.

	Śyāmasundara: There is no more body? No more body?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' There is no more body? No more body?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. No, this body you have got. Just like this shirt and coat, ''vasamsi'', this is covering of your body. So you have got already your spiritual body.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. No, this body you have got. Just like this shirt and coat, ''vasamsi'', this is covering of your body. So you have got already your spiritual body.

	Śyāmasundara: Spiritual body.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Spiritual body.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is now covered by this material element. So emancipation, or salvation, means you no more get your material body. But your body is already there. Just like in this body I have got my body. And because I have got a hand, my dress has got a hand. Because I have got a leg, my pant has got a leg. So this superficial, external body is simply covering of your original body. Your original body is spiritual. So go back to home, back to Godhead, means you remain in your original, spiritual body. You get freedom from this covering of material body. Now that spiritual body you can transfer to so many ways.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is now covered by this material element. So emancipation, or salvation, means you no more get your material body. But your body is already there. Just like in this body I have got my body. And because I have got a hand, my dress has got a hand. Because I have got a leg, my pant has got a leg. So this superficial, external body is simply covering of your original body. Your original body is spiritual. So go back to home, back to Godhead, means you remain in your original, spiritual body. You get freedom from this covering of material body. Now that spiritual body you can transfer to so many ways.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, yes. Spiritually you are all the same. Just like as human being we are all the same, but you may have a black dress, I may have a saffron dress, he may have white dress. This is outward covering. This is not myself. Similarly, ''dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā'' ([[BG 2.13 (1972)\|BG 2.13]]). Within this body the spirit soul is there, and he is changing different types of bodies. So when he accepts a process, this going back to home, back to Godhead to Kṛṣṇa, then he hasn't got to accept any more material body. He remains in his own spiritual body. And spiritual body, by original constitution, it is eternal. Eternal. ''Nityaṁ śāśvato 'yam, na hanyate hanyamāne. Na jāyate na mriyate vā kadācin'' ([[BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]). This is a description of it.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, yes. Spiritually you are all the same. Just like as human being we are all the same, but you may have a black dress, I may have a saffron dress, he may have white dress. This is outward covering. This is not myself. Similarly, ''dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā'' ([[BG 2.13 (1972)\|BG 2.13]]). Within this body the spirit soul is there, and he is changing different types of bodies. So when he accepts a process, this going back to home, back to Godhead to Kṛṣṇa, then he hasn't got to accept any more material body. He remains in his own spiritual body. And spiritual body, by original constitution, it is eternal. Eternal. ''Nityaṁ śāśvato 'yam, na hanyate hanyamāne. Na jāyate na mriyate vā kadācin'' ([[BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]). This is a description of it.

	Śyāmasundara: In the spiritual bodies aren't there also individualities?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' In the spiritual bodies aren't there also individualities?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Yes.

	Śyāmasundara: My spiritual body won't be the same as . . .		'''Śyāmasundara:''' My spiritual body won't be the same as . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, just like father and son. Son is also individual. Father is also individual. Although the son is born of the body of the father, of the mother, but he is individual. He is individual. He can disobey father or he can obey the father. So long he obeys he is happy. When he disobeys he is unhappy.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, just like father and son. Son is also individual. Father is also individual. Although the son is born of the body of the father, of the mother, but he is individual. He is individual. He can disobey father or he can obey the father. So long he obeys he is happy. When he disobeys he is unhappy.

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Pradyumna:" to "'''Pradyumna:'''"

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	Śyāmasundara: He's our Sanskrit scholar.		Śyāmasundara: He's our Sanskrit scholar.

	Pradyumna:		'''Pradyumna:'''

	:''vāsāṁsi jīrṇāni yathā vihāya''		:''vāsāṁsi jīrṇāni yathā vihāya''
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	(aside) Read it.		(aside) Read it.

	Pradyumna:		'''Pradyumna:'''

	:''yānti deva-vratā devān''		:''yānti deva-vratā devān''
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Higher planetary system of demigods, yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Higher planetary system of demigods, yes.

	Pradyumna: "Those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth amongst such beings. Those who worship ancestors go to the ancestors. And those who worship Me will live with Me."		'''Pradyumna:''' "Those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth amongst such beings. Those who worship ancestors go to the ancestors. And those who worship Me will live with Me."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So we can transfer to any form of body. Simply you have to prepare. But if we remain in our original body, then you go back to home, back to Godhead.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So we can transfer to any form of body. Simply you have to prepare. But if we remain in our original body, then you go back to home, back to Godhead.

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Girl:" to "'''Girl:'''"

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, that's nice. Yes. So he sometimes becomes disobedient? Sometimes? Eh? Why? (laughs) That means you have got independence. Is it not? Yes. That means he has got independence. Yes. This is a fact. Similarly, we are sons of God, we have got little independence. We may remain with God, we may give up His company and come here to find our own fortune. And to find our own fortune we are becoming implicated and taking birth in different species of life. That is our ignorance. You are obedient to your mother?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, that's nice. Yes. So he sometimes becomes disobedient? Sometimes? Eh? Why? (laughs) That means you have got independence. Is it not? Yes. That means he has got independence. Yes. This is a fact. Similarly, we are sons of God, we have got little independence. We may remain with God, we may give up His company and come here to find our own fortune. And to find our own fortune we are becoming implicated and taking birth in different species of life. That is our ignorance. You are obedient to your mother?

	Girl: Sometimes.		'''Girl:''' Sometimes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Sometimes; not always.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Sometimes; not always.

	Girl: Yes.		'''Girl:''' Yes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' She is the youngest? Ah, therefore she must be disobedient. (laughter) Daughter is eldest? This daughter? Oh. You are obedient?		'''Prabhupāda:''' She is the youngest? Ah, therefore she must be disobedient. (laughter) Daughter is eldest? This daughter? Oh. You are obedient?

	Girl: Sometimes.		'''Girl:''' Sometimes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Sometimes? Not always? (laughs)		'''Prabhupāda:''' Sometimes? Not always? (laughs)

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Mother:" to "'''Mother:'''"

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Sometimes? Not always? (laughs)		'''Prabhupāda:''' Sometimes? Not always? (laughs)

	Mother: Most times.		'''Mother:''' Most times.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' All right. Thank you.		'''Prabhupāda:''' All right. Thank you.

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Prabhupāda:" to "'''Prabhupāda:'''"

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