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	He is yogī. There are many varieties of ''yogīs''. ~~And~~ Kṛṣṇa concludes, "Of all the ''yogīs'', big, big ''yogīs'', the person who is always remembering Kṛṣṇa and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa ''mahā-mantra'' is first class." This is said by Kṛṣṇa, not by me. Therefore it is authorized statement. Without Kṛṣṇa consciousness, all these mystic powers ~~. . .~~ they may be temporarily some magic, but Kṛṣṇa says that "One who is always remembering Me," ''satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ'' ([[BG 9.14 (1972)\|BG 9.14]]), "he is first-class ''yogī''." So all these persons who are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa according to the prescribed rules and regulations, without any offense . . . there are ten kinds of offenses. So in the beginning there may be offenses. It doesn't matter. It will be rectified. Offenseless chanting means ''mukti'', and then pure chanting means love of Godhead. There are three stages. In the beginning, when one begins chanting, it is not pure; there are so many offenses. But chanting, chanting, the offenses become purified. (background talking) Offenseless chanting is not purified completely, but it is offenseless. So offenseless chanting makes one liberated, and then pure chanting makes one lover of God. This is the process. So chanting is a great mystic power. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has recommended, ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]): "By chanting, your heart becomes purified." ''Ceto-darpaṇa''. We are suffering in this material world on account of . . . (background talking) (aside) Ask him not to talk loudly. On account of impurities . . . (aside) What is the use of talking? The first impurity is identifying . . . (aside) Stop him. Don't talk at all.		He is yogī. There are many varieties of ''yogīs''. Kṛṣṇa concludes, "Of all the ''yogīs'', big, big ''yogīs'', the person who is always remembering Kṛṣṇa and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa ''mahā-mantra'' is first class." This is said by Kṛṣṇa, not by me. Therefore it is authorized statement. Without Kṛṣṇa consciousness, all these mystic powers, they may be temporarily some magic, but Kṛṣṇa says that "One who is always remembering Me," ''satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ'' ([[BG 9.14 (1972)\|BG 9.14]]), "he is first-class ''yogī''." So all these persons who are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa according to the prescribed rules and regulations, without any offense . . . there are ten kinds of offenses. So in the beginning there may be offenses. It doesn't matter. It will be rectified. Offenseless chanting means ''mukti'', and then pure chanting means love of Godhead. There are three stages. In the beginning, when one begins chanting, it is not pure; there are so many offenses. But chanting, chanting, the offenses become purified. (background talking) Offenseless chanting is not purified completely, but it is offenseless. So offenseless chanting makes one liberated, and then pure chanting makes one lover of God. This is the process. So chanting is a great mystic power. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has recommended, ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]): "By chanting, your heart becomes purified." ''Ceto-darpaṇa''. We are suffering in this material world on account of . . . (background talking) (aside) Ask him not to talk loudly. On account of impurities . . . (aside) What is the use of talking? The first impurity is identifying . . . (aside) Stop him. Don't talk at all.

	'''Indian man (1):''' It is one gentle . . . one person. He says: "I am Bengali." And he has got some trouble. He was told that "If you have got any physical trouble, go to the medical practitioners."		'''Indian man (1):''' It is one gentle . . . one person. He says: "I am Bengali." And he has got some trouble. He was told that "If you have got any physical trouble, go to the medical practitioners."

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' (aside) Don't talk. Why you are talking? So our real trouble is that we have become conditioned by the material identification, "I am this body." Everyone is thinking, "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am ''brāhmaṇa''," "I am ''sannyāsī''," everything identification with the body. That is the dirty thing. So one has to purify that, "I am neither American, neither Indian, nor ''brāhmaṇa'', or so many designations." Then it is called cleansing the heart. ''Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam'' ([[CC Madhya 19.170\|CC Madhya 19.170]]). That is ''mukti'', when you don't identify with this material body. And so long you identify with this material body, either you become a ''sannyāsī'' with some beard or a ''gṛhastha'' without some beard, the same thing—identifying with the body. So ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]) means to become free from the bodily designation. And ''śāstra'' says, ''yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke'' ([[SB 10.84.13\|SB 10.84.13]]). This body is composition of three ''dhātu—kapha'', ''pitta'', ''vāyu''—according to Āyur Veda; and according to medical science, it is skin and then muscle, blood, bone and marrow, stool, urine, those, combination. So I am not this combination of stool, bone, skin, blood. But people are taking like that. When they are diseased, they take care of the body. Of course, it is not that we should not take care. But that is superficial. Real care should be taken of the soul within the body. ''Dehino 'smin yathā dehe'' ([[BG 2.13 (1972)\|BG 2.13]]). ''Dehinaḥ'', ''dehī''. ''Dehinaḥ'' and ''deha''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' (aside) Don't talk. Why you are talking? So our real trouble is that we have become conditioned by the material identification, "I am this body." Everyone is thinking, "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am ''brāhmaṇa''," "I am ''sannyāsī''," everything identification with the body. That is the dirty thing. So one has to purify that, "I am neither American, neither Indian, nor ''brāhmaṇa'', or so many designations." Then it is called cleansing the heart. ''Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam'' ([[CC Madhya 19.170\|CC Madhya 19.170]]). That is ''mukti'', when you don't identify with this material body. And so long you identify with this material body, either you become a ''sannyāsī'' with some beard or a ''gṛhastha'' without some beard, the same thing—identifying with the body. So ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]) means to become free from the bodily designation. And ''śāstra'' says, ''yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke'' ([[SB 10.84.13\|SB 10.84.13]]). This body is composition of three ''dhātu—kapha'', ''pitta'', ''vāyu''—according to Āyur Veda; and according to medical science, it is skin and then muscle, blood, bone and marrow, stool, urine, those, combination. So I am not this combination of stool, bone, skin, blood. But people are taking like that. When they are diseased, they take care of the body. Of course, it is not that we should not take care. But that is superficial. Real care should be taken of the soul within the body. ''Dehino 'smin yathā dehe'' ([[BG 2.13 (1972)\|BG 2.13]]). ''Dehinaḥ'', ''dehī''. ''Dehinaḥ'' and ''deha''.

	So anyone who is identifying with this body in either . . . ~~sccording~~ to Vedic civilization, the bodily identification is divided into eight: ''brāhmaṇa'', ''kṣatriya'', ''vaiśya'', ''śūdra'', ''brahmacārī'', ''gṛhastha'', ''vānaprastha'' and ''sannyāsa''. ''Varṇāśrama-dharma''. So human civilization begins, according to Vedic understanding, when there is ''varṇāśrama'' system. Otherwise it is not human civilization. Therefore in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is stated, ''cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭam'' ([[BG 4.13 (1972)\|BG 4.13]]). This system should be followed. Then, gradually, one has to come to the spiritual. Chaotic society cannot help us. There must be systematic social order: ''brāhmaṇa'', ''kṣatriya'', ''vaiśya'', ''śūdra'', ''cātur-varṇyam'', and ''brahmacārī'', ''gṛhastha'', ''vānaprastha'' and ''sannyāsa''. ''Sannyāsa'' is not voluntary, but it is compulsory. At the last stage one must take ''sannyāsa''. After fiftieth year one must take to ''vānaprastha'', ''vanaṁ vrajet''. This is system. So, system of purification, how to become designationless. And if we keep the designation, then, ''śāstra'' says, ''sa eva go-kharaḥ'' ([[SB 10.84.13\|SB 10.84.13]]): "One who keeps the bodily designation, he's no better than the cows and the asses, animal." So Caitanya Mahāprabhu recommends that . . . Caitanya Mahā . . . this is the śāstric, Vedic culture, that we have to purify ourselves from the bodily designation. That is called ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]), cleansing the dirty things within the core of the heart, that "I am this"—"I am Indian," "I am American," "I am ''brāhmaṇa''," "I am ''sannyāsī''," "I am ''gṛhastha''," "I am white," "I am black." These are the dirty things. So these dirty things can be cleansed by chanting this Hare Kṛṣṇa ''mantra''. ''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ'' ([[SB 1.2.17\|SB 1.2.17]]). This chanting and hearing is ''puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ''. If you do not know anything about, if you simply chant and hear, you become purified, ''puṇya''. Because on account of dirty things, impious life, you have become covered by different bodies. ''Mṛtyu-saṁsāra-vartmani''. Different bodies means the way of birth and death. That you have to stop. And that is stopped when you get Kṛṣṇa; otherwise not. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, I think, in the Ninth Chapter . . . find out this verse, ''aśraddadhānāḥ puruṣā dharmasyāsya parantapa, mām aprāpya'' ([[BG 9.3 (1972)\|BG 9.3]]). You cannot get Kṛṣṇa. If you have no faith in ''Bhagavad-gītā'', then you cannot get Kṛṣṇa. If you don't care for Kṛṣṇa, that is another thing, but if you want to get Kṛṣṇa, then what Kṛṣṇa says, you follow. Read.		So anyone who is identifying with this body in either . . . according to Vedic civilization, the bodily identification is divided into eight: ''brāhmaṇa'', ''kṣatriya'', ''vaiśya'', ''śūdra'', ''brahmacārī'', ''gṛhastha'', ''vānaprastha'' and ''sannyāsa''. ''Varṇāśrama-dharma''. So human civilization begins, according to Vedic understanding, when there is ''varṇāśrama'' system. Otherwise it is not human civilization. Therefore in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is stated, ''cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭam'' ([[BG 4.13 (1972)\|BG 4.13]]). This system should be followed. Then, gradually, one has to come to the spiritual. Chaotic society cannot help us. There must be systematic social order: ''brāhmaṇa'', ''kṣatriya'', ''vaiśya'', ''śūdra'', ''cātur-varṇyam'', and ''brahmacārī'', ''gṛhastha'', ''vānaprastha'' and ''sannyāsa''. ''Sannyāsa'' is not voluntary, but it is compulsory. At the last stage one must take ''sannyāsa''. After fiftieth year one must take to ''vānaprastha'', ''vanaṁ vrajet''. This is system. So, system of purification, how to become designationless. And if we keep the designation, then, ''śāstra'' says, ''sa eva go-kharaḥ'' ([[SB 10.84.13\|SB 10.84.13]]): "One who keeps the bodily designation, he's no better than the cows and the asses, animal." So Caitanya Mahāprabhu recommends that . . . Caitanya Mahā . . . this is the śāstric, Vedic culture, that we have to purify ourselves from the bodily designation. That is called ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]), cleansing the dirty things within the core of the heart, that "I am this"—"I am Indian," "I am American," "I am ''brāhmaṇa''," "I am ''sannyāsī''," "I am ''gṛhastha''," "I am white," "I am black." These are the dirty things. So these dirty things can be cleansed by chanting this Hare Kṛṣṇa ''mantra''. ''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ'' ([[SB 1.2.17\|SB 1.2.17]]). This chanting and hearing is ''puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ''. If you do not know anything about, if you simply chant and hear, you become purified, ''puṇya''. Because on account of dirty things, impious life, you have become covered by different bodies. ''Mṛtyu-saṁsāra-vartmani''. Different bodies means the way of birth and death. That you have to stop. And that is stopped when you get Kṛṣṇa; otherwise not. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, I think, in the Ninth Chapter . . . find out this verse, ''aśraddadhānāḥ puruṣā dharmasyāsya parantapa, mām aprāpya'' ([[BG 9.3 (1972)\|BG 9.3]]). You cannot get Kṛṣṇa. If you have no faith in ''Bhagavad-gītā'', then you cannot get Kṛṣṇa. If you don't care for Kṛṣṇa, that is another thing, but if you want to get Kṛṣṇa, then what Kṛṣṇa says, you follow. Read.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:'''		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:'''

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	There should be no mixture of ''jñāna'' and ''karma'' or even ''yoga''. ''Ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānu'' . . . simply to cultivate Kṛṣṇa consciousness favorably. "Favorably" means what Kṛṣṇa wants. That is favorable. If you do what Kṛṣṇa wants, that is favorable. And if you do what Kṛṣṇa does not want, that is unfavorable; that is not ''bhakti''. Just like Kaṁsa. He was always thinking of Kṛṣṇa, but that was not favorably. He was thinking otherwise, how to kill Kṛṣṇa, and that is not ''bhakti''. The ''gopīs'' were also thinking of Kṛṣṇa, how to make Him happy, and that is favorable. So ''ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānuśīlanaṁ bhaktir uttamā'' ([[CC Madhya 19.167\|CC Madhya 19.167]]). Without any mixture, adulteration of ''jñāna'' and ''karma'', that is pure devotion. Then?		There should be no mixture of ''jñāna'' and ''karma'' or even ''yoga''. ''Ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānu'' . . . simply to cultivate Kṛṣṇa consciousness favorably. "Favorably" means what Kṛṣṇa wants. That is favorable. If you do what Kṛṣṇa wants, that is favorable. And if you do what Kṛṣṇa does not want, that is unfavorable; that is not ''bhakti''. Just like Kaṁsa. He was always thinking of Kṛṣṇa, but that was not favorably. He was thinking otherwise, how to kill Kṛṣṇa, and that is not ''bhakti''. The gopīs were also thinking of Kṛṣṇa, how to make Him happy, and that is favorable. So ''ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānuśīlanaṁ bhaktir uttamā'' ([[CC Madhya 19.167\|CC Madhya 19.167]]). Without any mixture, adulteration of ''jñāna'' and ''karma'', that is pure devotion. Then?

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' "Those who have no faith, even after hearing about Kṛṣṇa and the excellence of devotional service, who think that it is simply eulogy, find the path very difficult even if they are supposed . . ." (break)		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' "Those who have no faith, even after hearing about Kṛṣṇa and the excellence of devotional service, who think that it is simply eulogy, find the path very difficult even if they are supposed . . ." (break)

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Is there any purport?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Is there any purport?

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Purport by Śrīla ~~'''~~Prabhupāda:~~'''~~ "When . . ." (break)		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Purport by Śrīla Prabhupāda: "When . . ." (break)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So let us stop today. Somebody ''kīrtana''. (''kīrtana'' begins) (end)		'''Prabhupāda:''' So let us stop today. Somebody ''kīrtana''. (''kīrtana'' begins) (end)

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	So about from . . . apart from ''śāstra'', the ''vedānta-kṛt'', ''vedānta-vit'', Kṛṣṇa, He is speaking. ''Asaṁśayaṁ samagraṁ māṁ yathā jñāsyasi tac chṛṇu'' ([[BG 7.1 (1972)\|BG 7.1]]): "Just hear." And He's ''vedānta-vit'', ''vedānta-kṛt''. He knows what is ''Vedānta'', and He has compiled ''Vedānta'', and He is ready to speak. We don't hear Kṛṣṇa. How much unfortunate we are. (aside:) Here.		So about from . . . apart from ''śāstra'', the ''vedānta-kṛt'', ''vedānta-vit'', Kṛṣṇa, He is speaking. ''Asaṁśayaṁ samagraṁ māṁ yathā jñāsyasi tac chṛṇu'' ([[BG 7.1 (1972)\|BG 7.1]]): "Just hear." And He's ''vedānta-vit'', ''vedānta-kṛt''. He knows what is ''Vedānta'', and He has compiled ''Vedānta'', and He is ready to speak. We don't hear Kṛṣṇa. How much unfortunate we are. (aside:) Here.

	Indian man (2): <span style="color:#ff9933">Kisme meri aasakti aur kisme mera aashray, ye dono . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(In what do I have attachment and in what do I take shelter? These two . . .)</span>		'''Indian man (2):''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Kisme meri aasakti aur kisme mera aashray, ye dono . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(In what do I have attachment and in what do I take shelter? These two . . .)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Aasakti nahi hai to aashray kaise hoga?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(If you don't have attachment, then how can you take shelter?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Aasakti nahi hai to aashray kaise hoga?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(If you don't have attachment, then how can you take shelter?)</span>

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Some magic. Our magic is already there. Throughout the whole world we are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. Is not that magic? Hmm? Foreign countries, foreign religion, and they are accepting Kṛṣṇa and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. Is not that magic?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Some magic. Our magic is already there. Throughout the whole world we are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. Is not that magic? Hmm? Foreign countries, foreign religion, and they are accepting Kṛṣṇa and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. Is not that magic?

	Indian man (1): It is.		'''Indian man (1):''' It is.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' And still more magic? The world is chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. ''Boliye''?		'''Prabhupāda:''' And still more magic? The world is chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. ''Boliye''?
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	He is yogī. There are many varieties of ''yogīs''. And Kṛṣṇa concludes, "Of all the ''yogīs'', big, big ''yogīs'', the person who is always remembering Kṛṣṇa and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa ''mahā-mantra'' is first class." This is said by Kṛṣṇa, not by me. Therefore it is authorized statement. Without Kṛṣṇa consciousness, all these mystic powers . . . they may be temporarily some magic, but Kṛṣṇa says that "One who is always remembering Me," ''satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ'' ([[BG 9.14 (1972)\|BG 9.14]]), "he is first-class ''yogī''." So all these persons who are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa according to the prescribed rules and regulations, without any offense . . . there are ten kinds of offenses. So in the beginning there may be offenses. It doesn't matter. It will be rectified. Offenseless chanting means ''mukti'', and then pure chanting means love of Godhead. There are three stages. In the beginning, when one begins chanting, it is not pure; there are so many offenses. But chanting, chanting, the offenses become purified. (background talking) Offenseless chanting is not purified completely, but it is offenseless. So offenseless chanting makes one liberated, and then pure chanting makes one lover of God. This is the process. So chanting is a great mystic power. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has recommended, ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]): "By chanting, your heart becomes purified." ''Ceto-darpaṇa''. We are suffering in this material world on account of . . . (background talking) (aside) Ask him not to talk loudly. On account of impurities . . . (aside) What is the use of talking? The first impurity is identifying . . . (aside) Stop him. Don't talk at all.		He is yogī. There are many varieties of ''yogīs''. And Kṛṣṇa concludes, "Of all the ''yogīs'', big, big ''yogīs'', the person who is always remembering Kṛṣṇa and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa ''mahā-mantra'' is first class." This is said by Kṛṣṇa, not by me. Therefore it is authorized statement. Without Kṛṣṇa consciousness, all these mystic powers . . . they may be temporarily some magic, but Kṛṣṇa says that "One who is always remembering Me," ''satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ'' ([[BG 9.14 (1972)\|BG 9.14]]), "he is first-class ''yogī''." So all these persons who are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa according to the prescribed rules and regulations, without any offense . . . there are ten kinds of offenses. So in the beginning there may be offenses. It doesn't matter. It will be rectified. Offenseless chanting means ''mukti'', and then pure chanting means love of Godhead. There are three stages. In the beginning, when one begins chanting, it is not pure; there are so many offenses. But chanting, chanting, the offenses become purified. (background talking) Offenseless chanting is not purified completely, but it is offenseless. So offenseless chanting makes one liberated, and then pure chanting makes one lover of God. This is the process. So chanting is a great mystic power. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has recommended, ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]): "By chanting, your heart becomes purified." ''Ceto-darpaṇa''. We are suffering in this material world on account of . . . (background talking) (aside) Ask him not to talk loudly. On account of impurities . . . (aside) What is the use of talking? The first impurity is identifying . . . (aside) Stop him. Don't talk at all.

	Indian man (1): It is one gentle . . . one person. He says: "I am Bengali." And he has got some trouble. He was told that "If you have got any physical trouble, go to the medical practitioners."		'''Indian man (1):''' It is one gentle . . . one person. He says: "I am Bengali." And he has got some trouble. He was told that "If you have got any physical trouble, go to the medical practitioners."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.

	Indian man (1): "If you have got any spiritual, then you can stay." He is continuing. That is all.		'''Indian man (1):''' "If you have got any spiritual, then you can stay." He is continuing. That is all.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' (aside) Don't talk. Why you are talking? So our real trouble is that we have become conditioned by the material identification, "I am this body." Everyone is thinking, "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am ''brāhmaṇa''," "I am ''sannyāsī''," everything identification with the body. That is the dirty thing. So one has to purify that, "I am neither American, neither Indian, nor ''brāhmaṇa'', or so many designations." Then it is called cleansing the heart. ''Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam'' ([[CC Madhya 19.170\|CC Madhya 19.170]]). That is ''mukti'', when you don't identify with this material body. And so long you identify with this material body, either you become a ''sannyāsī'' with some beard or a ''gṛhastha'' without some beard, the same thing—identifying with the body. So ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]) means to become free from the bodily designation. And ''śāstra'' says, ''yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke'' ([[SB 10.84.13\|SB 10.84.13]]). This body is composition of three ''dhātu—kapha'', ''pitta'', ''vāyu''—according to Āyur Veda; and according to medical science, it is skin and then muscle, blood, bone and marrow, stool, urine, those, combination. So I am not this combination of stool, bone, skin, blood. But people are taking like that. When they are diseased, they take care of the body. Of course, it is not that we should not take care. But that is superficial. Real care should be taken of the soul within the body. ''Dehino 'smin yathā dehe'' ([[BG 2.13 (1972)\|BG 2.13]]). ''Dehinaḥ'', ''dehī''. ''Dehinaḥ'' and ''deha''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' (aside) Don't talk. Why you are talking? So our real trouble is that we have become conditioned by the material identification, "I am this body." Everyone is thinking, "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am ''brāhmaṇa''," "I am ''sannyāsī''," everything identification with the body. That is the dirty thing. So one has to purify that, "I am neither American, neither Indian, nor ''brāhmaṇa'', or so many designations." Then it is called cleansing the heart. ''Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam'' ([[CC Madhya 19.170\|CC Madhya 19.170]]). That is ''mukti'', when you don't identify with this material body. And so long you identify with this material body, either you become a ''sannyāsī'' with some beard or a ''gṛhastha'' without some beard, the same thing—identifying with the body. So ''ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]) means to become free from the bodily designation. And ''śāstra'' says, ''yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke'' ([[SB 10.84.13\|SB 10.84.13]]). This body is composition of three ''dhātu—kapha'', ''pitta'', ''vāyu''—according to Āyur Veda; and according to medical science, it is skin and then muscle, blood, bone and marrow, stool, urine, those, combination. So I am not this combination of stool, bone, skin, blood. But people are taking like that. When they are diseased, they take care of the body. Of course, it is not that we should not take care. But that is superficial. Real care should be taken of the soul within the body. ''Dehino 'smin yathā dehe'' ([[BG 2.13 (1972)\|BG 2.13]]). ''Dehinaḥ'', ''dehī''. ''Dehinaḥ'' and ''deha''.
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	So if we do not try to understand the real purpose of ''Bhagavad-gītā'', and if we theorize, "''Bhagavad-gītā'' means nonviolence. ''Bhagavad-gītā'' means to become patriot," these are materialism. We should avoid this wrong interpretation, misguiding direction of blind leaders. We'll not get any benefit out of it. So we are trying to rectify this. That's all. Everything is there. Any question is solved by Kṛṣṇa. Politics, economics, religion, culture, philosophy—everything is discussed very thoroughly. Simply one has to understand. Then he becomes fixed up in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. People are generally after ''yoga'', especially the Westerners. I think they have come here for perfection of ''yoga''. But here it is stated in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', ''mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha yogaṁ yuñjan mad-āśrayaḥ''. That is first class, to increase your attachment for Kṛṣṇa. ''Mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha yogaṁ yuñjan''. This is ''yoga'', how to increase the attachment for Kṛṣṇa. This is called ''bhakti-yoga''. So this ''yoga'' can be practiced—''mayy āsakta-manāḥ pār'' . . . ''yogam'', ''mad-āśrayaḥ'', not anyone's other's ''āśraya''. ''Mad-āśrayaḥ''. Taking shelter of Kṛṣṇa or taking shelter of Kṛṣṇa's personal persons, personal associates, ''mat-para. Mat-para'' means one who has dedicated his life for Kṛṣṇa. He is called ''mat-para''. Or directly under Kṛṣṇa. Directly under Kṛṣṇa is difficult. Because we do not understand Kṛṣṇa, therefore we have to take shelter of a person who is already under the shelter of Kṛṣṇa.		So if we do not try to understand the real purpose of ''Bhagavad-gītā'', and if we theorize, "''Bhagavad-gītā'' means nonviolence. ''Bhagavad-gītā'' means to become patriot," these are materialism. We should avoid this wrong interpretation, misguiding direction of blind leaders. We'll not get any benefit out of it. So we are trying to rectify this. That's all. Everything is there. Any question is solved by Kṛṣṇa. Politics, economics, religion, culture, philosophy—everything is discussed very thoroughly. Simply one has to understand. Then he becomes fixed up in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. People are generally after ''yoga'', especially the Westerners. I think they have come here for perfection of ''yoga''. But here it is stated in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', ''mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha yogaṁ yuñjan mad-āśrayaḥ''. That is first class, to increase your attachment for Kṛṣṇa. ''Mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha yogaṁ yuñjan''. This is ''yoga'', how to increase the attachment for Kṛṣṇa. This is called ''bhakti-yoga''. So this ''yoga'' can be practiced—''mayy āsakta-manāḥ pār'' . . . ''yogam'', ''mad-āśrayaḥ'', not anyone's other's ''āśraya''. ''Mad-āśrayaḥ''. Taking shelter of Kṛṣṇa or taking shelter of Kṛṣṇa's personal persons, personal associates, ''mat-para. Mat-para'' means one who has dedicated his life for Kṛṣṇa. He is called ''mat-para''. Or directly under Kṛṣṇa. Directly under Kṛṣṇa is difficult. Because we do not understand Kṛṣṇa, therefore we have to take shelter of a person who is already under the shelter of Kṛṣṇa.

	Indian man (1): But ''mat-para'' people are very seldom available.		'''Indian man (1):''' But ''mat-para'' people are very seldom available.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. How do you know? If you do not know what is the meaning of ''mat-para'', how you can say "Seldom"? Do you know what is ''mat-para''? Unless you know who is ''mat-para'', how you can say like that? You have no knowledge. ''Mat-para'' means a simple thing: one who has fully surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. That's all. This is very seldom? There are so many. But you have decided "seldom." Why seldom? Here you see so many young men, our association. They are fully surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. They do not know anything else than Kṛṣṇa. So why it is seldom? You won't take. That is your fault. Rather, they are coming to you. They are canvassing. But you are so stubborn, you'll not take it. That is your fault. They are canvassing door to door. Why do you say: "It is seldom"? It is very easily available. But you won't take. That is your fault. Caitanya Mahāprabhu personally came, and He canvassed door to door. He sent His men door to door. We are sending all over the world. But you do not come. ''Mat-para'' is not seldom. At least at the present moment, it has become very easily available. But you don't take. That is your fault. (break)		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. How do you know? If you do not know what is the meaning of ''mat-para'', how you can say "Seldom"? Do you know what is ''mat-para''? Unless you know who is ''mat-para'', how you can say like that? You have no knowledge. ''Mat-para'' means a simple thing: one who has fully surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. That's all. This is very seldom? There are so many. But you have decided "seldom." Why seldom? Here you see so many young men, our association. They are fully surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. They do not know anything else than Kṛṣṇa. So why it is seldom? You won't take. That is your fault. Rather, they are coming to you. They are canvassing. But you are so stubborn, you'll not take it. That is your fault. They are canvassing door to door. Why do you say: "It is seldom"? It is very easily available. But you won't take. That is your fault. Caitanya Mahāprabhu personally came, and He canvassed door to door. He sent His men door to door. We are sending all over the world. But you do not come. ''Mat-para'' is not seldom. At least at the present moment, it has become very easily available. But you don't take. That is your fault. (break)
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	(indistinct) . . . He says, "How you can understand Me perfectly," ''samagram'', "and," ''asaṁśayam'', "without any doubt." So Kṛṣṇa is speaking about Him, which is without any doubt and without any difficulty, in fullness, but who is hearing Him? That is seldom. Otherwise Kṛṣṇa has become very easily available. ''Namo mahā-vadānyāya kṛṣṇa-prema-pradāya te'' ([[CC Madhya 19.53\|CC Madhya 19.53]]). Even ''kṛṣṇa-prema''. But we won't take. Is it seldom?		(indistinct) . . . He says, "How you can understand Me perfectly," ''samagram'', "and," ''asaṁśayam'', "without any doubt." So Kṛṣṇa is speaking about Him, which is without any doubt and without any difficulty, in fullness, but who is hearing Him? That is seldom. Otherwise Kṛṣṇa has become very easily available. ''Namo mahā-vadānyāya kṛṣṇa-prema-pradāya te'' ([[CC Madhya 19.53\|CC Madhya 19.53]]). Even ''kṛṣṇa-prema''. But we won't take. Is it seldom?

	Indian man (1): Our fault.		'''Indian man (1):''' Our fault.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm? Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm? Yes.

	Indian man (1): Our fault.		'''Indian man (1):''' Our fault.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' It is our fault we won't take. A man has fallen in the blind well, and he's crying, "Save me! Save me!" and when somebody comes and gives him a rope—"You catch it. I shall lift you"—but he'll not touch it, then who can save him? The rope is there, the man is there, and he is crying; but when we request that "You take it," he won't take. ''Aiye''. So how he can be saved? And Kṛṣṇa said, ''mad-āśrayaḥ''. But he'll not take ''mad-āśrayaḥ''. He'll take ''āśraya'' of something else. This is the position. ''Mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha''. People are harassed to understand God, whether there is God or not God, who is God. When I first went to America, the theory was going that "God is dead." And what was the . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' It is our fault we won't take. A man has fallen in the blind well, and he's crying, "Save me! Save me!" and when somebody comes and gives him a rope—"You catch it. I shall lift you"—but he'll not touch it, then who can save him? The rope is there, the man is there, and he is crying; but when we request that "You take it," he won't take. ''Aiye''. So how he can be saved? And Kṛṣṇa said, ''mad-āśrayaḥ''. But he'll not take ''mad-āśrayaḥ''. He'll take ''āśraya'' of something else. This is the position. ''Mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha''. People are harassed to understand God, whether there is God or not God, who is God. When I first went to America, the theory was going that "God is dead." And what was the . . .
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	"Take perfect knowledge of God from Me." Why don't you do that? ''Boliye''. What is the reason? ''Boliye'', Swāmījī. When God is speaking that "You take from Me perfect and complete knowledge of God," so why don't you take it?		"Take perfect knowledge of God from Me." Why don't you do that? ''Boliye''. What is the reason? ''Boliye'', Swāmījī. When God is speaking that "You take from Me perfect and complete knowledge of God," so why don't you take it?

	Indian man (1): We are still attached to material side.		'''Indian man (1):''' We are still attached to material side.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Whatever it may be, but we are denying. Is it not? Hmm? When . . . suppose a big man. You do not know what he is. But if the man says, "You want to know me? All right, I shall disclose all my secrets to you. Try to understand." So why don't you . . . do not take it? If you want to know the person, and the person is explaining himself, why don't you take it? Why theorize that, "God is like this. God is like this"? What is the meaning? When the person has come to explain about himself . . . ''asaṁśayaṁ samagraṁ māṁ yathā jñāsyasi tac chṛṇu'' ([[BG 7.1 (1972)\|BG 7.1]]): "Hear." Hearing is the process of knowledge. Therefore our ''Vedas'' are called ''śruti''. The knowledge has to be acquired through ear. My Guru Mahārāja used to say that "Don't try to see a ''sādhu'' by your eyes. You try to see a ''sādhu'' by ears.<span style="color:#ff9933">Kaan se sadhu dekho, aankh se nahi. aankh se dekhne se bolega, kya bolta hai Tāvac ca śobhate mūrkhaḥ yāvat kiñcin na bhāṣate. Murkh tabhi tak shobha hai jab tak bolta nahi, bol diya to khul gaya. isliye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(You see a saintly man by your ears, not by your eyes. If you see with your eyes he will say, what will he say? "''Tāvac ca śobhate mūrkhaḥ yāvat kiñcin na bhāṣate''." A foolish man is good as long as he does not speak, if he speaks then the secret comes out, that is why.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' Whatever it may be, but we are denying. Is it not? Hmm? When . . . suppose a big man. You do not know what he is. But if the man says, "You want to know me? All right, I shall disclose all my secrets to you. Try to understand." So why don't you . . . do not take it? If you want to know the person, and the person is explaining himself, why don't you take it? Why theorize that, "God is like this. God is like this"? What is the meaning? When the person has come to explain about himself . . . ''asaṁśayaṁ samagraṁ māṁ yathā jñāsyasi tac chṛṇu'' ([[BG 7.1 (1972)\|BG 7.1]]): "Hear." Hearing is the process of knowledge. Therefore our ''Vedas'' are called ''śruti''. The knowledge has to be acquired through ear. My Guru Mahārāja used to say that "Don't try to see a ''sādhu'' by your eyes. You try to see a ''sādhu'' by ears.<span style="color:#ff9933">Kaan se sadhu dekho, aankh se nahi. aankh se dekhne se bolega, kya bolta hai Tāvac ca śobhate mūrkhaḥ yāvat kiñcin na bhāṣate. Murkh tabhi tak shobha hai jab tak bolta nahi, bol diya to khul gaya. isliye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(You see a saintly man by your ears, not by your eyes. If you see with your eyes he will say, what will he say? "''Tāvac ca śobhate mūrkhaḥ yāvat kiñcin na bhāṣate''." A foolish man is good as long as he does not speak, if he speaks then the secret comes out, that is why.)</span>

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	'''Indian man:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Is sansar me aasakti to kayi bar hoti hai aur . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(In this world we become attached many times and . . .)</span>		'''Indian man:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Is sansar me aasakti to kayi bar hoti hai aur . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(In this world we become attached many times and . . .)</span>

	Prabhupada: <span style="color:#ff9933">to wo sab chodna padega. Krishna me aasakti badhao. iska naam hai 'cheto darpana marjanam' aasakti theek us sab mei. Kisi ka aasakti god me hota hai aur kisi ka aasakti dog me. Jiska koi aashray nahi hai wo kutta pal leta hai. uska exercise hai roj nahata hai, khilata hai, to aasakti to hai. aur usko family hai nahi. ye europe, america me bahut hai. vrddhapan me wo shadi to karta nahi, family nahi hai to kutta pal leta hai, television dekhta hai bas aur koi upay hai nahi. to aasakti to hai kahin lagana chahiye. wo janta nahi ki television me . . . aur jo janta hai wo daba nahi. aasakti to kahi na kahi daba hai. aur wohi aashray hua. udhar to kutta bada-bada.. karodo rupay ki ye kutta ko hum de diye hain. (verse) jab Krishna ka aasakti chod dete hain to maya ka aasakti ho jata hai. (verse) phir jab Krishna ka aasakti ho jati hai to aya ka aasakti chut jata hai, saral baat. Isliye Krishna kehte hain ki mujshe aasakti jodo. usko jo rasta hai to maya ka aasakti automatically chut jati hai (verse).</span> <span style="color:#128807">(So you have to leave all that. Develop attachment for Kṛṣṇa. This "''Cheto darpanam marjanam''", attachment is okay for all that. Someone have an attachment to God and others have an attachment to a dog. Those who don't have any shelter, they adopt a dog. It's exercise everyday, he bathes the dog, feeds it—so attachment is there. He does not have a family, this is common in Europe and America. In old age he does not marry, family is not there—so he takes a dog as companion, watches television, that is all—there is no way out.</span>		'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">to wo sab chodna padega. Krishna me aasakti badhao. iska naam hai 'cheto darpana marjanam' aasakti theek us sab mei. Kisi ka aasakti god me hota hai aur kisi ka aasakti dog me. Jiska koi aashray nahi hai wo kutta pal leta hai. uska exercise hai roj nahata hai, khilata hai, to aasakti to hai. aur usko family hai nahi. ye europe, america me bahut hai. vrddhapan me wo shadi to karta nahi, family nahi hai to kutta pal leta hai, television dekhta hai bas aur koi upay hai nahi. to aasakti to hai kahin lagana chahiye. wo janta nahi ki television me . . . aur jo janta hai wo daba nahi. aasakti to kahi na kahi daba hai. aur wohi aashray hua. udhar to kutta bada-bada.. karodo rupay ki ye kutta ko hum de diye hain. (verse) jab Krishna ka aasakti chod dete hain to maya ka aasakti ho jata hai. (verse) phir jab Krishna ka aasakti ho jati hai to aya ka aasakti chut jata hai, saral baat. Isliye Krishna kehte hain ki mujshe aasakti jodo. usko jo rasta hai to maya ka aasakti automatically chut jati hai (verse).</span> <span style="color:#128807">(So you have to leave all that. Develop attachment for Kṛṣṇa. This "''Cheto darpanam marjanam''", attachment is okay for all that. Someone have an attachment to God and others have an attachment to a dog. Those who don't have any shelter, they adopt a dog. It's exercise everyday, he bathes the dog, feeds it—so attachment is there. He does not have a family, this is common in Europe and America. In old age he does not marry, family is not there—so he takes a dog as companion, watches television, that is all—there is no way out.</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">So that attachment has to be used somewhere. He does not know that on television . . . one who is aware is not surrendered to this sense gratification. So attachment is there and it has to attach somewhere and that only is shelter. There he spends ''crores'' of rupees on breeding a dog and caring for it. (verse) When we become detached from Kṛṣṇa, then we become attached to illusion. (verse) When we become attached to Kṛṣṇa, then we become detached from illusion, this is a simple fact. That is why Kṛṣṇa says: "Get attached to me." The path which leads to Him will automatically take us away from illusion (verse).)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">So that attachment has to be used somewhere. He does not know that on television . . . one who is aware is not surrendered to this sense gratification. So attachment is there and it has to attach somewhere and that only is shelter. There he spends ''crores'' of rupees on breeding a dog and caring for it. (verse) When we become detached from Kṛṣṇa, then we become attached to illusion. (verse) When we become attached to Kṛṣṇa, then we become detached from illusion, this is a simple fact. That is why Kṛṣṇa says: "Get attached to me." The path which leads to Him will automatically take us away from illusion (verse).)</span>

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	Prabhupada: <span style="color:#ff9933">Haan, aasakti ka process hai. Yadi bhagvan ki kripa me apko shraddha hai to phir aa sakta hai. To pehle shraddha hi nahi hai, usko bakne do, hum apna kaam karenge. Wo bhagvan krishna bakta hai bakne do, hum apna kaam karenge,ye kaise ho sakta hai, boliye. Bhagvan kehte hain (verse) ye yog hai, bhakti yog. Bhakti yog ka niyam hai . . . 'adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga bhajan kriya'... 'yatha nishta tatho ruchi'... aur sadhu kaun hai (verse) jo bhagvat bhajan karte hain wo sadhu hai 'adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga' . . . agar wo rassi nahi pakadenge to avashya . . . are pakad rassi, 'nahi bhagvan ki jab iccha hogi, rassi samne hai. Bhagavan khud aake bolta hai (verse). Wo tonic diya hai, use le lo . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes there is a process for attachment. If you have faith in God's mercy, then you will develop attachment. But you don't have faith. Let him talk nonsense, we will do our work. He is a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa. Let him speak nonsense, we will do our duty—how is this possible? Tell me. God says (verse) this is ''yogi'', devotional ''yoga''. The principle of devotional practice is . . . "''Adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga bhajan kriya''" . . . "''Yatha nishta tatho ruchi''" . . . and who is a saint? (verse) One who sings the glories of the Lord is a saint. "''ashau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga''" . . . if they don't catch the rope the shelter . . . "Oh catch the rope" no, when God desires—the rope is in front of you. God Himself comes and says nine verses. He has given a tonic, take it.)</span> Find out this, ''teṣām evānukampārtham'' ([[BG 10.11 (1972)\|BG 10.11]]), ''mṛtyu-saṁsāra-sāgarāt''. <span style="color:#ff9933">Bhagvan to . . . jab bhagvan charge deta hai usko gyani banane ke liye, to usse badh kar kaun . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(God . . . when God gives the charge to make him come out of ignorance, to make him knowledgeable, then what or who can be greater than this? . . .)</span> Read it.		'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Haan, aasakti ka process hai. Yadi bhagvan ki kripa me apko shraddha hai to phir aa sakta hai. To pehle shraddha hi nahi hai, usko bakne do, hum apna kaam karenge. Wo bhagvan krishna bakta hai bakne do, hum apna kaam karenge,ye kaise ho sakta hai, boliye. Bhagvan kehte hain (verse) ye yog hai, bhakti yog. Bhakti yog ka niyam hai . . . 'adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga bhajan kriya'... 'yatha nishta tatho ruchi'... aur sadhu kaun hai (verse) jo bhagvat bhajan karte hain wo sadhu hai 'adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga' . . . agar wo rassi nahi pakadenge to avashya . . . are pakad rassi, 'nahi bhagvan ki jab iccha hogi, rassi samne hai. Bhagavan khud aake bolta hai (verse). Wo tonic diya hai, use le lo . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes there is a process for attachment. If you have faith in God's mercy, then you will develop attachment. But you don't have faith. Let him talk nonsense, we will do our work. He is a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa. Let him speak nonsense, we will do our duty—how is this possible? Tell me. God says (verse) this is ''yogi'', devotional ''yoga''. The principle of devotional practice is . . . "''Adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga bhajan kriya''" . . . "''Yatha nishta tatho ruchi''" . . . and who is a saint? (verse) One who sings the glories of the Lord is a saint. "''ashau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga''" . . . if they don't catch the rope the shelter . . . "Oh catch the rope" no, when God desires—the rope is in front of you. God Himself comes and says nine verses. He has given a tonic, take it.)</span> Find out this, ''teṣām evānukampārtham'' ([[BG 10.11 (1972)\|BG 10.11]]), ''mṛtyu-saṁsāra-sāgarāt''. <span style="color:#ff9933">Bhagvan to . . . jab bhagvan charge deta hai usko gyani banane ke liye, to usse badh kar kaun . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(God . . . when God gives the charge to make him come out of ignorance, to make him knowledgeable, then what or who can be greater than this? . . .)</span> Read it.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Aasakti nahi hai to aashray kaise hoga?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(If you don't have attachment, then how can you take shelter?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Aasakti nahi hai to aashray kaise hoga?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(If you don't have attachment, then how can you take shelter?)</span>

	Indian man: <span style="color:#ff9933">Is sansar me aasakti to kayi bar hoti hai aur . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(In this world we become attached many times and . . .)</span>		'''Indian man:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Is sansar me aasakti to kayi bar hoti hai aur . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(In this world we become attached many times and . . .)</span>

	Prabhupada: <span style="color:#ff9933">to wo sab chodna padega. Krishna me aasakti badhao. iska naam hai 'cheto darpana marjanam' aasakti theek us sab mei. Kisi ka aasakti god me hota hai aur kisi ka aasakti dog me. Jiska koi aashray nahi hai wo kutta pal leta hai. uska exercise hai roj nahata hai, khilata hai, to aasakti to hai. aur usko family hai nahi. ye europe, america me bahut hai. vrddhapan me wo shadi to karta nahi, family nahi hai to kutta pal leta hai, television dekhta hai bas aur koi upay hai nahi. to aasakti to hai kahin lagana chahiye. wo janta nahi ki television me . . . aur jo janta hai wo daba nahi. aasakti to kahi na kahi daba hai. aur wohi aashray hua. udhar to kutta bada-bada.. karodo rupay ki ye kutta ko hum de diye hain. (verse) jab Krishna ka aasakti chod dete hain to maya ka aasakti ho jata hai. (verse) phir jab Krishna ka aasakti ho jati hai to aya ka aasakti chut jata hai, saral baat. Isliye Krishna kehte hain ki mujshe aasakti jodo. usko jo rasta hai to maya ka aasakti automatically chut jati hai (verse).</span> <span style="color:#128807">(So you have to leave all that. Develop attachment for Kṛṣṇa. This "''Cheto darpanam marjanam''", attachment is okay for all that. Someone have an attachment to God and others have an attachment to a dog. Those who don't have any shelter, they adopt a dog. It's exercise everyday, he bathes the dog, feeds it—so attachment is there. He does not have a family, this is common in Europe and America. In old age he does not marry, family is not there—so he takes a dog as companion, watches television, that is all—there is no way out.</span>		Prabhupada: <span style="color:#ff9933">to wo sab chodna padega. Krishna me aasakti badhao. iska naam hai 'cheto darpana marjanam' aasakti theek us sab mei. Kisi ka aasakti god me hota hai aur kisi ka aasakti dog me. Jiska koi aashray nahi hai wo kutta pal leta hai. uska exercise hai roj nahata hai, khilata hai, to aasakti to hai. aur usko family hai nahi. ye europe, america me bahut hai. vrddhapan me wo shadi to karta nahi, family nahi hai to kutta pal leta hai, television dekhta hai bas aur koi upay hai nahi. to aasakti to hai kahin lagana chahiye. wo janta nahi ki television me . . . aur jo janta hai wo daba nahi. aasakti to kahi na kahi daba hai. aur wohi aashray hua. udhar to kutta bada-bada.. karodo rupay ki ye kutta ko hum de diye hain. (verse) jab Krishna ka aasakti chod dete hain to maya ka aasakti ho jata hai. (verse) phir jab Krishna ka aasakti ho jati hai to aya ka aasakti chut jata hai, saral baat. Isliye Krishna kehte hain ki mujshe aasakti jodo. usko jo rasta hai to maya ka aasakti automatically chut jati hai (verse).</span> <span style="color:#128807">(So you have to leave all that. Develop attachment for Kṛṣṇa. This "''Cheto darpanam marjanam''", attachment is okay for all that. Someone have an attachment to God and others have an attachment to a dog. Those who don't have any shelter, they adopt a dog. It's exercise everyday, he bathes the dog, feeds it—so attachment is there. He does not have a family, this is common in Europe and America. In old age he does not marry, family is not there—so he takes a dog as companion, watches television, that is all—there is no way out.</span>
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	<span style="color:#128807">If he understands a little bit about God (verse). After a person dies then he gets another body but this other body need not be in the same family, same caste, same human body. Kṛṣṇa has not said this. So if this does not happen then where is the family, society and nation we once belonged to? This minute point people do not understand. What will he do in one life? They must read the ''Gītā'' and develop attachment to the Lord. Someone has attachment to the body, to family, to community, to country, to religion—to something else. So we understand one fact (verse). We are now in a comfortable room . . . by reading the ''Gītā'', he has been liberated. He need not read too many books.)</span> The first line Kṛṣṇa says that ''aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajñā-vādāṁś ca bhāṣase'', ''gatāsūn agatāsūṁś ca nānuśocanti'' ([[BG 2.11 (1972)\|BG 2.11]]). <span style="color:#ff9933">Sharir me aasakti chut gaya hai to phir mukti.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(If he develops attachment to God then he is liberated.)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">If he understands a little bit about God (verse). After a person dies then he gets another body but this other body need not be in the same family, same caste, same human body. Kṛṣṇa has not said this. So if this does not happen then where is the family, society and nation we once belonged to? This minute point people do not understand. What will he do in one life? They must read the ''Gītā'' and develop attachment to the Lord. Someone has attachment to the body, to family, to community, to country, to religion—to something else. So we understand one fact (verse). We are now in a comfortable room . . . by reading the ''Gītā'', he has been liberated. He need not read too many books.)</span> The first line Kṛṣṇa says that ''aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajñā-vādāṁś ca bhāṣase'', ''gatāsūn agatāsūṁś ca nānuśocanti'' ([[BG 2.11 (1972)\|BG 2.11]]). <span style="color:#ff9933">Sharir me aasakti chut gaya hai to phir mukti.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(If he develops attachment to God then he is liberated.)</span>

	Indian man: . . . (indistinct Hindi)		'''Indian man:''' . . . (indistinct Hindi)

	Prabhupada: <span style="color:#ff9933">Haan, aasakti ka process hai. Yadi bhagvan ki kripa me apko shraddha hai to phir aa sakta hai. To pehle shraddha hi nahi hai, usko bakne do, hum apna kaam karenge. Wo bhagvan krishna bakta hai bakne do, hum apna kaam karenge,ye kaise ho sakta hai, boliye. Bhagvan kehte hain (verse) ye yog hai, bhakti yog. Bhakti yog ka niyam hai . . . 'adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga bhajan kriya'... 'yatha nishta tatho ruchi'... aur sadhu kaun hai (verse) jo bhagvat bhajan karte hain wo sadhu hai 'adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga' . . . agar wo rassi nahi pakadenge to avashya . . . are pakad rassi, 'nahi bhagvan ki jab iccha hogi, rassi samne hai. Bhagavan khud aake bolta hai (verse). Wo tonic diya hai, use le lo . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes there is a process for attachment. If you have faith in God's mercy, then you will develop attachment. But you don't have faith. Let him talk nonsense, we will do our work. He is a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa. Let him speak nonsense, we will do our duty—how is this possible? Tell me. God says (verse) this is ''yogi'', devotional ''yoga''. The principle of devotional practice is . . . "''Adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga bhajan kriya''" . . . "''Yatha nishta tatho ruchi''" . . . and who is a saint? (verse) One who sings the glories of the Lord is a saint. "''ashau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga''" . . . if they don't catch the rope the shelter . . . "Oh catch the rope" no, when God desires—the rope is in front of you. God Himself comes and says nine verses. He has given a tonic, take it.)</span> Find out this, ''teṣām evānukampārtham'' ([[BG 10.11 (1972)\|BG 10.11]]), ''mṛtyu-saṁsāra-sāgarāt''. <span style="color:#ff9933">Bhagvan to . . . jab bhagvan charge deta hai usko gyani banane ke liye, to usse badh kar kaun . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(God . . . when God gives the charge to make him come out of ignorance, to make him knowledgeable, then what or who can be greater than this? . . .)</span> Read it.		Prabhupada: <span style="color:#ff9933">Haan, aasakti ka process hai. Yadi bhagvan ki kripa me apko shraddha hai to phir aa sakta hai. To pehle shraddha hi nahi hai, usko bakne do, hum apna kaam karenge. Wo bhagvan krishna bakta hai bakne do, hum apna kaam karenge,ye kaise ho sakta hai, boliye. Bhagvan kehte hain (verse) ye yog hai, bhakti yog. Bhakti yog ka niyam hai . . . 'adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga bhajan kriya'... 'yatha nishta tatho ruchi'... aur sadhu kaun hai (verse) jo bhagvat bhajan karte hain wo sadhu hai 'adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga' . . . agar wo rassi nahi pakadenge to avashya . . . are pakad rassi, 'nahi bhagvan ki jab iccha hogi, rassi samne hai. Bhagavan khud aake bolta hai (verse). Wo tonic diya hai, use le lo . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes there is a process for attachment. If you have faith in God's mercy, then you will develop attachment. But you don't have faith. Let him talk nonsense, we will do our work. He is a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa. Let him speak nonsense, we will do our duty—how is this possible? Tell me. God says (verse) this is ''yogi'', devotional ''yoga''. The principle of devotional practice is . . . "''Adhau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga bhajan kriya''" . . . "''Yatha nishta tatho ruchi''" . . . and who is a saint? (verse) One who sings the glories of the Lord is a saint. "''ashau shraddha tatha sadhu sanga''" . . . if they don't catch the rope the shelter . . . "Oh catch the rope" no, when God desires—the rope is in front of you. God Himself comes and says nine verses. He has given a tonic, take it.)</span> Find out this, ''teṣām evānukampārtham'' ([[BG 10.11 (1972)\|BG 10.11]]), ''mṛtyu-saṁsāra-sāgarāt''. <span style="color:#ff9933">Bhagvan to . . . jab bhagvan charge deta hai usko gyani banane ke liye, to usse badh kar kaun . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(God . . . when God gives the charge to make him come out of ignorance, to make him knowledgeable, then what or who can be greater than this? . . .)</span> Read it.